What he meant is that the magical damage amplification stacks. On the other hand, just hold alt + mouse over the items and don't ask these questions. The reason people get multiple ex abed meepo is because it's a highly cost efficient item for stats. Mastering effective farming patterns is possibly the fastest way you can improve your Dota play, whether you’re a carry player or a support, since with more gold and more items your contribution to team fights will skyrocket and establishing an economic advantage is the foundation on. Attack damage is the amount of damage a unit is shown to deal with a regular attack. A unit's total attack damage is the sum of its main attack damage (white) and bonus attack damage (green). Attack damage is modified by many different effects in the game and ends up going through a number of steps in order to determine how much damage an attack actually deals as its overall or total attack.
PogChamp
I usually get Daedalus after I pick up Desolator (or the situational Diffusal Blade), but I always feel that despite it being a luxury item, it doesnt synergize quite well to TA's design than previuosly thought.
Templar Assasin's damage output is applying huge chunks of damage at the least time possible, and though in theory increasing the output of a strike by 220% by a 25% chance is an ideal DPS booster, nevermind the 81 extra damage, it doesnt seem ideal to TA. She doesn't have the outstanding attack speed to maximize crit procs, and she is designed to kill heroes in 3-5 hits, so the chance of proccing crits seem dismal itself, given the chance how PRNG works.
I feel that Butterfly + Diffusal Blade is a better option. Or even stacking Butterflies. Stacking Agility is just very cost-efficient - armor and attack speed and damage all at the same time.
I think Daedalus would be cost efficient on items like Assault Cuirass or Hurricane Pike, but the problem is that the former is not really a good item to get, considering the power spike TA can achieve vs.net worth, and is best taken when catching up or of the game stretched beyond 40 minutes. The latter option is just so gimmicky to be honest.
Thoughts?
H^
SnY Desolator Daedalus Cuirass Vyse/BKB (you chose) and BoT is my build, i'd definitely get daedalus. Jdk 8 download mac.
Aimstrong
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PogChamp
Thanks for the excellent advise, based H^, godlike slark and drow player
ywn
you dont want to stack agi u want to get attack speed and damage.
u need to kill people fast and try to hit multiple people with psiblades
PogChamp
Ok, my bad, 30% chance.
But still, it doesn't seem ideal, judging how psrudorandom number generation works
oGoG
I'm a TA player and the best way to build her is not by high dmg or critical items.
Stick and aquila are necessary on TA, bottle of course.
Always go Power Treads always.
after you pick up your Desolator, get a blink and a Dragon Lance. from here you can build a bkb or you can finish your Dragon lance into a hurrican pike, after this get a moon shard, TA has a lack of attack speed and not dmg, you dont really need that much dmg on her. After your moon Shard you have a free opinion in items..
I tent to sell my deso and get a divane combines with a daedalus in some late game scenarios
Stick and aquila are necessary on TA, bottle of course.
Always go Power Treads always.
after you pick up your Desolator, get a blink and a Dragon Lance. from here you can build a bkb or you can finish your Dragon lance into a hurrican pike, after this get a moon shard, TA has a lack of attack speed and not dmg, you dont really need that much dmg on her. After your moon Shard you have a free opinion in items..
I tent to sell my deso and get a divane combines with a daedalus in some late game scenarios
PogChamp
PogChamp
Tokyo ghoul blue star guy, don't you think stacking agi is a good compromise between building raw damage and building raw attack speed?
oGoG
H^
Thanks for the excellent advise, based H^, godlike slark and drow player
Are you 15? Probably are, looking at ur username.
BADMAN
Agree to robin,for me critical is nothing
For late better go for rapier,moonshsrd
For late better go for rapier,moonshsrd
oGoG
H^
PogChamp
Robin: My only issue is that you said damage items don't matter, because in truth, it does.
As for H^, given that I'm actually 15, does it completely dissolute all the logical points that I've presented in my original post? If so, why would you insist thpeople can have very different playstyles on a hero with a static design and still win?
oGoG
if you really have an oppinion on TA op, ask @Waga,
PogChamp
H^
You're 15, you're dumb and all you do is troll and talk about memes and shitz lelz no point having a conversation with a kid, it'll end up into a massive memes fest from his side anyways.
ywn
yeah i prefer hurricane pike and moonshard mostly.
i very rarely get butterfly.
Daedalus just give the potential to oneshot people with psiblades kinda like playing kunkka
PogChamp
I was watching at some Chinese players and they dont çonsistently buy Daedalus
ywn
generally good builds
oGoG
@pogChamp: I didnt mean that.. what I meant was TA farms and snowballs really fast and till 30-40 minutes you should be good with the casual treds, blink, deso, hurican, bkb, but when it comes to late game and really really late game I think Divane is a way better choice with a moon shard.
PogChamp
Ok, then mind if you quit this forum, thank you. Your loss will be unwarranted and beneficial to the community at the same time.
oGoG
Or a MKB for that matter. Deadalus isnt really my choice for her
ywn
divines extremely risky on TA its really hard to survive lategame
PogChamp
H^
Dmg moriseiki. Ok I need to quit this forum because I don't see a point in having a conversation with a 15 year old? Typical kids dude, don't forget to tell me you fucked my mom aswell.
ywn
the realm's delight
BADMAN
Just go for late rapier snd stay st bsck hit.good luck and try
PogChamp
What if I told you, that between me and you, you are the ones who's more likely to say you've fucked the other's mom as well.
Calling names dont win you arguments, kiddo. Nor does pulling the good ole victimist trump card.
§picy G
Dire Wolf
Well meld can't crit, that dmg is dealt as a separate instance, otherwise crystalis rush would probably be a no brainer. But refraction dmg can crit, so that's the thinking behind it, open with meld, get the armor debuff, crit refraction and they are dead.
But I never play TA so I would take practical advice over theory crafting.
low hero pool lul
Buy fucking crit on TA. Why is this even questioned?
PogChamp
Smile Protector
You do not fucking manfight with TA, nor do you have useful illusions, why the hell would you stack agi on that hero? Any stat based agi carry is going to wreck you if you try stacking agility, because it doesn't really do anything considering what your abilities do. Plus, if you have more right clickers on your team, it is by far more efficient to go for -armor into oblivion, considering that with meld, AC and deso you can reduce someone's armor by 20, which hurts even lategame (as much as amplify damage lvl 3, mind you), if you're able to apply that damage without getting blown up in a few hits.
Also, stacking agility is NOT COST EFFICIENT AT ALL and whoever told you that lied to you. There are heroes that can offset this by having strong illusions or other uses for agility (like drow and riki), but not, stacking raw damage, crits, etc, is by far more efficient, as well as raw attack speed.
![Dota 2 Dmg Cost Efficient Dota 2 Dmg Cost Efficient](/uploads/1/3/3/9/133909767/481051008.jpg)
I mean, past blink deso, you could get a hyperstone and crystalis for the same amount of gold you'd spend on quarterstaff and eaglesong, and the difference in DPS on TA (in that case) is FUCKING HUGE. Eaglesong is one of the most inefficient items in the game, stacking butterflies is stupid because some wise soul just might counter 2-3 butterflies with a MKB, and the damage output is really not that great for how much you pay for it.
As TA you do not want to delay actually useful items by buying shit that just isn't worth to get early, sometimes it is mandatory to get a quick BKB, and even that 'quick' BKB is after blink deso, not before. Plus, even if you cannot crit off refraction, you still have a lot of -armor with meld and deso, so you still hit hard, and raw attack speed is great for the hero because it is ridiculously cheap and can help you dump all refraction charges with blink meld and then pounding a tanky hero without having to chase him much.
TL;DR:
raw damage and raw attack speed = great and efficient on TA
agility based build = trash and inefficient both in terms of slots and cost
agility based build = trash and inefficient both in terms of slots and cost
Vic Romano
Butterfly + diffusal when you're tying to manfight, but ideally you aren't, you're jumping in and killing someone in a couple hits, and a critical can speed that up. Also a good TA will position themselves to psi blade onto other targets, and a critical can easily kill two at once. For me, I sometimes prefer bloodthorn over Daedalus for the silence and critical on every hit, but it depends
.GENGHIS.
I'd like the TA in my team to have Assault Cuirass after the mandatory Desolator & Dagger. Butterfly seems plausible as 5th or 6th slot but perhaps Assault is better after those initial two. Helps team a lot generally, and TA specifically, too.
Eventually, though, TA players know better what to build at which preference.
off
1 shot - 1 kill
no luck - just TA with daedalus + desolator
no luck - just TA with daedalus + desolator
matrice
if you have basic knowledge of pseudo random and know how to/can use it properly, then daedalus is awesome on ta.
Satanás
Waga says he likes to get daedalus after deso when he's snowballing hard, even vs heroes with evasion like PA. So if you're snowballing, daedalus is really good.
But you can build many ways. judge the situation, never stick to 1 item build
ywn
adding to this: I believe moonshard is severely underrated and probably one of the best items for TA, when you hit extremely fast in a teamfight and the enemy moves around youre often gonna get a lot of psiblades off which just does insane damage. I think my build will be aquila - threads - blink - deso - hurricane pike - moonshard (maybe bkb)
di-bhad bhabie
I was TA player but it is not the best option this patch.
How I used to play, my record with TA is 988 GPM with 13 kills,
I would get opening items as bottle aquila boots, then midas by 7, with TA its quite easy to miss no last hits and stack 5 sets of ancients in 10.
with midas by 7 I usually get deso by 13, then clear the ancient stack to have 15 minute deso blink midas. I do not get treads, at this point you can farm extremely quick while getting kills. next I get BOTS, crystalys by 19-20 minutes.
In these kind of games I usually by 30 minutes will have deadalus or butterfly, heart or bkb, bots, deso, bottle by 30 minutes and moonshard by 33.
di-bhad bhabie
the thing with building the burst dmg on TA is being able to pick off heroes who can lock you down before they can do it, for example blinking on a witch doctor and killing him in 2 hits before he can stun, use glimmer cape, and ult you. Or on any support before they can lock you down. The burst dmg allows you take map control that you wouldn't otherwise have.
Frizbee Alert
So I've never really played TA, but I fucked around with her for a bit and decided that I favor Bottle, Boots, Aquila, Treads, Deso, Blink, Hurricane. I think hurricane could be swapped for something like a Daedalus or something, but I feel as if DL is pretty important.
LimBomber
I think I can give some TA advice. You should almost always go for aquila treads and wand to meange your mana properly and never go back to base if you meange to get a few runes. I start with 2 branches one fearie fire and maybe a salve depending on the matchup so I can get the bottle on the first creep wave. after deso get blink and if you are about to push hg grab your bkb 25-30 mins in. Also during fights time your refraction and jump in when half its duration is done so you can use it twice. I think crit helps TA but you should never discount mkb as an option after deso blink.
A
wtf !!?? you guys are so noobs !!111 if you play ta rush dae + rapier nooobs.
aquila + phase + daedalus + rapier + rapier + blink
the best build for ta
aquila + phase + daedalus + rapier + rapier + blink
the best build for ta
forever and always
It is
Also I remember asking dragonfist about it vs moomshard, he says it's really good especially when you have aegis and can just try your luck with blowing up supports in 2 hits
Also I remember asking dragonfist about it vs moomshard, he says it's really good especially when you have aegis and can just try your luck with blowing up supports in 2 hits
Besn1q 3.0
'I would get opening items as bottle aquila boots, then midas by 7'
Yeah..no.
So I've played Medusa a bit before 7.07 update and I could use some suggestions on her build? Thx
Grimm
arcane boots, drum, kaya, harmlet and then you finish with 6 rapiers
Phase aquila mask..standard agi core items.
Then u go yasha linkin, or skadi maelstorm.
Depends on the enemy lineup really.
Then u go yasha linkin, or skadi maelstorm.
Depends on the enemy lineup really.
Avoid linkens (especialy first item), very common mistake is people get this when there are far better items for her.
Only get if agaisnt LC and afraid of duel for some reason or there is a necro on the opposing team.
Only get if agaisnt LC and afraid of duel for some reason or there is a necro on the opposing team.
96min game comeback vs megas with my friend on dusa
What I notice alot with YouTube videos I've watched and Your Friends 96min game is that You eat her Get Treads and hurricane pike or Phase boots But What About Mask of Madness? For example. Treads MOM then Maelstorm pike and Skadi if the game gets late. I would think just skip out on The Ring of Aquila if you time your Mystic snakes well.
I dont buy mom in her. She farms quick enough and stats so more for her
2 wraith bands
Phaseboots
Aquila
linkens and Hurricane pike
Butterfly and/or skadi or even 2 skadi
Phaseboots
Aquila
linkens and Hurricane pike
Butterfly and/or skadi or even 2 skadi
I get deadalus at 25, splitshots can crit on every target now. Also works with mkb, mjollnir
Aghanims and bkb are situational
Im pretty sure we will try MOM,Maelstorm build.
The idea behind aquila pike skadi clearly just for at least some stats early,not die at first we went for late game,planned dmg item after pike and skadi...
Hmm ok I get it I'll eventually try both builds out later today the Phase and The Treads ones the for the input :)
Dire Wolf
Mjollnir is core now because you get the level 25 talent to proc off split shot. It was good for her before that so it’s gokd before you hit 25 too.
Id go phase, Aquila, maelstrom, pike, skadi, finish mjollnir, bloodthorn, butterfly, mkb.
Well what I've found in playing under the 1k bracket The Treads mom maelstrom build would work the best because it takes some degree of positioning And turning on and off your mana shield. Then Farming Jungle and lane a lot till you get Maelstrom then pike then Skadi but usually games is near over by then.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3542695343 just check this game
:pensive:
mjollnir is good with the proc, but sometimes u want physical as opposed to magical
i wouldnt say its every game, but its rlly rlly good now
i wouldnt say its every game, but its rlly rlly good now
Arkani
Mom mealstrom for sure.
Diffu is Kinda op also skadi is MUST HAVE with lvl 25 Talent.
Diffu is Kinda op also skadi is MUST HAVE with lvl 25 Talent.
Depends if you have drow or not. Start is 'always' phase, aquila.
https://treenet357.weebly.com/mountain-lion-1085-dmg.html. If you dont have drow, you need some farming item - be it mom, maels.
If you have drow, you can skip it and go for core item directly. I usually start with aghs, as it gives a lot of value to your team. Even in early fights you are bringing value.
Afterwards skadi and usually there ends a game (with drow).
If you dont have her, finish your mjolnir and finish now.
no need
by 25 u want lifesteal and mjolnir at least. skadi is also very good
Smile Protector
I just realized medusa can now lifesteal off multiple targets Dmg mori seiki china.
why does she even need mana shield again
bearcat0611
so apparently I did this wrong.
Hmm I haven't thought about that, that I'll just get by without phase boots like 27 damage I think it is? That it would matter But I wouldn't build my rave band into the ring of Aquila Since I'll need it for hurricane pike. The build would be. Phase Keep the Rave band mom Maelstrom Then you Can go into Skadi Crits or mjollior diffusal ect.
Smile Protector
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3545229768
so apparently I did this wrong.
bg ez medusa report
In those 2 games Bearcats built Speed Medusa with Phase And Butterfly And ulannaut's game you Went mom and butterfly and manta for the speed My question is would you just keep farming in lane for a whIle or Shift beween the 2 But personally I would think ulannaut's build would Be more Proactive IN GENERAL Because builds can change of the hero's you go agesnt. But I've found why build Dragons Lance if it's not going to be a hurricane pike later?
bearcat0611
I would have eventually built it into a hurricane pike I just felt that for that game there were more important items to get. Such as aghs because that's both a ck and a pl in the other team.
I love travel, bloodthorn or linken(depends on enemy line up), SKADI, mjollnir, butterfly/manta, mom is a good way tho
blademail and aghanim build?
is that good.
i see Chinese pro player did that.
is that good.
i see Chinese pro player did that.
Yah bloodthorn would uitilise her ultimate with the more damage felt and the passive critical saying they get petrified I play in US east. Chinese players probably don't get preuvians at all (forever condemned to 1k below lol)
:pensive:
Aghs is highly situational to counter illusions
Blademail used to be a semi staple dusa pick up but idk anymore
Blademail used to be a semi staple dusa pick up but idk anymore
Dire Wolf
I think the hard part is my dream 6 slotted medusa build is not what I want to build up midgame. Lane into pike is extremely useful mid game when you don't have skadi yet to kite and need mobility, and when you need the hp off lance and the range helps, but late game I wouldn't use it. So do you build it just to see later? Most games end before you get 6 slotted with a hyperstone anyway. Is it worth selling a pike for something better before you have a hyperstone buff?
So 6 slotted with the multi shot proc talent obviously, I'd want phase, skadi, satanic, mjollnir, bloodthorn. Last item is mkb if they have evasion, butterfly probably if they don't. I think those are better dmg choices for proc'ing mjollnir than going for more crit with daedulus.
But some games you want a linkens. And my mid game buildup I love to go phase, aquila, lance, mask of madness, maelstrom, skadi. Then finish pike and mjollnir, game is often over at that point.
I started using Manta on Medusa instead of Hurricane pike I'd go now for Phase boots,mom maelstrom manta then Goes into situationals like bkb or mkb If I was going agent like Pl or ck I'd skip manta for ags then build more damage. I like manta because of its speed it gives and the dispel to dispell past dagger or lifestealers slow and souch.
This would be around my build currently https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3549324071
aquila phase mom maelstorm skadi , other item situational
Dire Wolf
I hate manta on medusa, would rather build s&y if going for yasha.
[3Body]
did anyone mention satanic bkb? i mean you life steal off of every split shot. what is it 150% per shot?
bearcat0611
but neither of those give mana and mana is like the best way to increase dusa's ehp. And while yes more than 100% lifesteal on 4shots is nice medusa would just much rather have more stats.
Smile Protector
guys I hope you realize that medusa does not really need to primarily depend on mana shield anymore, in fact, it is detrimental
depending on mana shield means you will eventually die if the enemy team can outsustain you in any way
if you get the mana talent but instead build stuff to increase your EHP in fights through sustain yourself (like through satanic) unless you are disabled for very long periods of time you still wont die
you can get a skadi and be done with mana-granting items you literally do not need more mana, it is overkill, just get satanic and damage instead
Stentorian
You can't skip MOM. It's just too good to not get on a ranged hc.
One common mistake I see when playing against Dusas is they build too much hp and tankiness but not enough damage. Which means they got Pike, Linkens, mom, skadi, but can't finish off anything in team fights due to lack of damage.
I don't play dusa (I hate inactive farming heroes), but I know what kind of hcs I hate going against.
Yah I Try to do damage Medusa I've stopped getting Pike with her but I'll try out sange and yasha With her.
I'll try Aquila Phase mom maelstrom Sange and yasha Skadi (I'm thinking of Crits or Desolator after Skadi or put crits/desolator first?) I would think Satanic would be nice if your always losing Mana and you need a last life line And bkb would offer some damage and the Buff and the Dispell but as already said it's situational.
Dota 2 Dmg Cost Efficient System
Guys, i d like to remind that 3 most cost efficient dps items are:
1) MoM
2) Diffusal Blade
3) Maelstrom
2) Diffusal Blade
3) Maelstrom
Than why not building all three? Diffusal Blade is also great for running away opponents.
So i go like this:
Start with WB
1) Phase Boots
Skip ring of aquila (i know it is core item but.)
2) Diffusal Blade
3) Maelstorm
4) Situational item (Agnm, mkb, bkb, linken)
5) Skadi
Upgrade to Myjollnir
6) Daedalus
1) Phase Boots
Skip ring of aquila (i know it is core item but.)
2) Diffusal Blade
3) Maelstorm
4) Situational item (Agnm, mkb, bkb, linken)
5) Skadi
Upgrade to Myjollnir
6) Daedalus
If the game goes on, sell MoM and buy Butterfly.
What do you guys think about this build?
:pensive:
^autism
Why TF wud u want diffusal on this hero
Before it purged so it had some utility, now it's pretty bad
Even then, ur too squishy with just diff mom and maelstrom
Why TF wud u want diffusal on this hero
Before it purged so it had some utility, now it's pretty bad
Even then, ur too squishy with just diff mom and maelstrom
:pensive:
@putin
The fact that u even consider a deso on dusa tells me u have no idea what ur talking abt
The fact that u even consider a deso on dusa tells me u have no idea what ur talking abt
I am new on Medusa, low mmr on the game. But i am fasinated with medusa, had 18 wins in 20 game in ranked matches (as i said, low level but still, my level)
So, i am here to further expend my knowladge on this hero.
I explained why i like DB, It is most cost efficient 2. item and it has infinite slow now, which medusa really needs to be able to chase. It just makes sense to me.
Dota 2 Dmg Cost Efficient Generator
THIS FUCKING FACE
this thread is so good that i even throw up just now because i build 5 bracer and tranquil on medusa and manage to go 3 0 0 on min 6 last game lobby
hmmm
hmmm
@Washed up I wrote that comment when I was really tired lol And I still am.
As for that build. You need mom with Medusa it Helps do the most damage if someone is under Medusas ult. You have to get it after Your boots so you can wipe out creep waves fast. Mom would be Effective all game I don't see a need to sell it?
As for that build. You need mom with Medusa it Helps do the most damage if someone is under Medusas ult. You have to get it after Your boots so you can wipe out creep waves fast. Mom would be Effective all game I don't see a need to sell it?
Arkani
Yokedici is right with lvl 25 Talent diffu is the Best Coast effective dps Item on Medusa. Its + 55 dmg on 4 targets, better than crits deso mjollnir if u consider the low cost.
Dire Wolf
Dota 2 Dmg Cost Efficient Cars
The cost shouldn't matter at 25, you should have enough gold to buy whatever you want and it's not the strongest in slot item.
I agree linkens is not needed for mana regen. It might be needed to block something and ensure you get your ult off in a fight. Skadi will always remain core, just does way too much for the hero.
The rest is situational, lots of good options. I just think at 25 you want to play on those procs which means mjollnir, crit (orchid is best on dusa for obvious reasons), mkb. Diffusal isn't as good as those other ones. I haven't tried satanic but it sounds good too.
:pensive:
u dont need cost effective items on dusa
wtf
she is a big fatass lategame carry, she just wants big items, not 3 3000 gold items
diffusal just falls off, and it doesnt purge anymore which makes it even more unnecessary
desolator is even worse, cuz -armor falls off hard lategame, AND ITS ALSO JUST A SHITTY 3K gold item, that doesnt do as much as another big item
fucking hell use ur brain
wtf
she is a big fatass lategame carry, she just wants big items, not 3 3000 gold items
diffusal just falls off, and it doesnt purge anymore which makes it even more unnecessary
desolator is even worse, cuz -armor falls off hard lategame, AND ITS ALSO JUST A SHITTY 3K gold item, that doesnt do as much as another big item
fucking hell use ur brain
KabaL
So it's just the way I play Medusa in my very low level bracket and I'm pretty sure I'm doing a lot of mistakes compare to real players but sometimes it works for me:
In 7.07b you now need items that provides you HP because the strengh gain has been extremely nerfed (1.95 to 1.5).
So Skadi is fully mandatory but the problem with Skadi (for my low skill of farm) is the cost of this item that can't be rushed as a first item (my opinion).
In 7.07 I was going for:
1) Early phase + aquilla + Dragon lance + MoM
2) Mid MkB first for damage/attack speed/Pierce + Mjollnir Then Skadi or Butterfly (depending on the context)
3) Late Crits + Satanic
In 7.07b
1) I sometimes prefer Treads for HP instead of Phase + aquilla + Dragon Lance/Pike (good for HP) + MoM (Cost/efficiency still great but risky)
2) Now I'm more tempted by S&Y for HP and attack speed instead of MKB Then Skadi is a must !!! + Talisman of Evasion (BKB is often usefull to not die before u start ulti)
3) Late Butterfly or Mjollnir and I had recently very bad suprises when I went for Crits because of late Blademail with 25 Talent
So I First go for Satanic before crits
So Skadi is fully mandatory but the problem with Skadi (for my low skill of farm) is the cost of this item that can't be rushed as a first item (my opinion).
In 7.07 I was going for:
1) Early phase + aquilla + Dragon lance + MoM
2) Mid MkB first for damage/attack speed/Pierce + Mjollnir Then Skadi or Butterfly (depending on the context)
3) Late Crits + Satanic
In 7.07b
1) I sometimes prefer Treads for HP instead of Phase + aquilla + Dragon Lance/Pike (good for HP) + MoM (Cost/efficiency still great but risky)
2) Now I'm more tempted by S&Y for HP and attack speed instead of MKB Then Skadi is a must !!! + Talisman of Evasion (BKB is often usefull to not die before u start ulti)
3) Late Butterfly or Mjollnir and I had recently very bad suprises when I went for Crits because of late Blademail with 25 Talent
So I First go for Satanic before crits
Medusa is now really really squishy in early, Mid and even beginning of late game.
Now in early/mid phases I try to never never tank/initiate a teamfight and I wait until fight has started then I start ultimate then I jump in with pike/(blink if u like it) then MoM and I try to deal as much damages as I can. If u try to initiate like a tank be sure that in 7.07b you will blowup instantly like a sniper in a field of PA (even with +800 mana of talent 20)
Now in early/mid phases I try to never never tank/initiate a teamfight and I wait until fight has started then I start ultimate then I jump in with pike/(blink if u like it) then MoM and I try to deal as much damages as I can. If u try to initiate like a tank be sure that in 7.07b you will blowup instantly like a sniper in a field of PA (even with +800 mana of talent 20)
One remark with Satanic: This item is really good with attack modifier talent because u intantly regen your life but If one of the opponent uses any item or ability to disable you (stun or disarm for example) be sure you will still die in a second because you still a fucking little snake without HP. As long as Medusa keep the attack flow it is an incredible tanky beast which destroys everything in its path but keeping this flow is the key :-D (bkb bkb bkb..)
I think Dire wolf sumed it all up. The goal is to Kill them before they are on you the farther you are from your enemy the better. Kabals point about Medusa is good BKB will keep you alive. Not getting stunned Or disabled so you and your team can charge in there.
Acquilla, phase, yasha, butterfly, 20 mins. Maelstrom/mjolnir, manta 25 - 26mins, daedalus mkb 30 mins +